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 Post subject: Re: Secret of the Incas
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:23 pm 
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Very good translation, It keeps the flavour of the original conversation. Please give my compliments to the lady.

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I had never seen that French fansite before. Nice!

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 Post subject: Re: Secret of the Incas
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itsjudah24 wrote:
Very good translation, It keeps the flavour of the original conversation. Please give my compliments to the lady.


I will Judah. Yes, France Darnell did a great job and the screencaps are amazing. The only words that didn't translate very well in the interview are Heston's opening line, "Hey, burro, burro! when I'm comparing Heston's character to Bogart's in THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE. The French interview translates "Hey, burro, burro!" to "the donkeys, the donkeys!" - but that is just a minor blip.


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 Post subject: Re: Secret of the Incas
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:01 am 
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Detective Thorn wrote:
I had never seen that French fansite before. Nice!


Yes, Thorn, France Darnell is a great fan of Chuck Heston and she's a really lovely lady. She uploaded hundreds and hundreds of high quality screencaps of SECRET OF THE INCAS onto my facebook site devoted to the film.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/41260824191/

France runs a pictorial Heston tribute site on Facebook, and that is how we became friends.


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 Post subject: Re: Secret of the Incas
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:00 am 
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HAPPY 5th BIRTHDAY TO THE CHARLTON HESTON FORUM :happybday2:
Highest Forum views on Heston movies and TV shows (2 Nov 2010 - 2 Nov 2015)
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FILM - REPLIES - VIEWS
1. SECRET OF THE INCAS - 714 - 61366
2. BEN-HUR - 366 - 37011
3. THE OMEGA MAN - 79 - 16245
4. THE TEN COMMANDMENTS - 142 - 15280
5. PLANET OF THE APES - 100 - 12462
6. THE NAKED JUNGLE - 88 - 10068
7. WILL PENNY - 71 - 8015
8. KHARTOUM - 7872
9. MY FATHER: RUA ALGUEM 555 - 75 - 7750
10. EARTHQUAKE - 38 - 7488
11. THE BIG COUNTRY - 70 - 7241
12. EL CID - 52 - 6828
13. TREASURE ISLAND - 37 - 6716
14. THE WAR LORD - 41 - 5890
15. MAJOR DUNDEE - 51 - 5615
16. CHIEFS - 26 - 5345
17. THE THREE MUSKETEERS - 35 - 5141
18. THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY - 44 - 5068
19. ANTONY AND CLEOPATRA - 36 - 4845
20. THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH - 48 - 4559
21. THE COLBY'S - 22 - 4454
22. SOYLENT GREEN - 39 - 4300
23. THE AWAKENING - 34 - 4074
24. BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES - 40 - 3843
25. ARROWHEAD - 13 - 3678
26. THE LAST HARD MEN - 22 - 3587
27. CALL OF THE WILD - 24 - 3572
28. NUMBER ONE - 27 - 3540
29. THE SAVAGE - 27 - 3354
30. THE GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD - 21 - 3247
31. 55 DAYS AT PEKING - 29 - 3209
32. DIAMOND HEAD - 35 - 3184
33. PONY EXPRESS - 22 - 3110
34. THE WRECK OF THE MARY DEARE - 32 - 3089
35. AIRPORT 1975 - 21 - 2940
36. DARK CITY - 29 - 2835
37. THE FOUR MUSKETEERS - 11 - 2711
38. SKYJACKED - 21 - 2672
39. TOUCH OF EVIL - 25 - 2644
40. JULIUS CAESAR (1970) - 20 - 2547
41. COUNTERPOINT -21 - 2381
42. THE BATTLE OF MIDWAY - 19 - 2381
43. CRASH LANDING - 14 - 2352
44. TWO MINUTE WARNING - 18 - 2270
45. MOTHER LODE - 18 - 2264
46. LUCY GALLANT - 12 - 2258
47. THE PRINCE AND THE PAUPER - 9 - 2111
48. THREE VIOLENT PEOPLE - 15 - 2084
49. GRAY LADY DOWN - 19 - 2004
50. THE MOUNTAIN MEN - 7 - 1999
51. FORBIDDEN AREA - 5 - 1997
52. THE PIGEON THAT TOOK ROME -11 - 1991
53. THE AVENGING ANGEL - 8 - 1958
54. HAMLET - 8 - 1924
55. THE PRESIDENT'S LADY - 18 - 1881
56. RUBY GENTRY - 16 - 1862
57. THE BUCCANEER - 22 - 1849
58. THE PRIVATE WAR OF MAJOR BENSON - 15 - 1749
59. ALASKA - 6 - 1685
60. WUTHERING HEIGHTS - 9 - 1676
61. TRUE LIES - 5 - 1664
62. THE LITTLE KIDNAPPERS - 4 - 1544
63. THE HAWAIIANS - 11 - 1471
64. THE FAR HORIZONS - 6 - 1448
65. JULIUS CAESAR (1950) - 15 - 1430
66. THE CRUCIFER OF BLOOD - 6 - 1406
67. BAD FOR EACH OTHER - 7 -1393
68. A MAN FOR ALL SEASONS - 7 - 1361
69. TOMBSTONE - 9 - 1311
70. GIDEON - 8 - 1285
71. IN THE MOUTH OF MADNESS - 5 - 1221
72. NAIROBI - 5 - 1132
73. THE ORDER - 6 - 1081
74. PROUD MEN - 7 - 894
75. ELIZABETH AND ESSEX - 8 - 886
76. WAYNE'S WORLD 2 - 4 - 735
77. JAYNE EYRE - 6 - 712
78. SOLAR CRISIS - 7 - 667
79. A BOLT OF LIGHTNING - 4 - 610
80. OF HUMAN BONDAGE - 2 - 549
81. ANY GIVEN SUNDAY - 3 - 486
82. ALMOST AN ANGEL - 2 - 449
83. ORIGINAL SIN - 1 - 271
84. THE WILLOW CABIN - 0 - 172

Last years figures are here secret-of-the-incas-t26-610.html on page 62.


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 Post subject: Re: Secret of the Incas
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Happy birthday indeed, James. I've created a thread for the occassion: the-charlton-heston-forums-5th-anniversary-t586.html

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 Post subject: Re: Secret of the Incas
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I left a message on that particular thread, Thorn, just a quickie expressing my high regards for this forum on the great Charlton Heston.

I like the fact that my own favourite Heston movie SECRET OF THE INCAS has been top of the "most viewed" list in the past five years.

It's also playing on British TCM today as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Secret of the Incas
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I have added some more of the cast of SECRET OF THE INCAS from my previous one on my website

http://www.secretoftheincas.co.uk/page3.html

SECRET OF THE INCAS – cast in order of appearance
Faustino Espinoza Navarro - Llama herder playing flute (15 Dec 1905 - 15 Jan 2000)
Charlton Heston - Harry Steele (4 Oct 1923 – 5 Apr 2008)
Carlos Rivero - Truck driver from La Paz (27 Jan 1900 – 14 Jun 1991)
Nicole Maurey - Elena Antonescu (20 Dec 1926 - 11 Mar 2016)
Marion Ross - Miss Morris (25 Oct 1928)
Rankin Mansfield - Mr. Potter (9 May 1895 - 22 Jan 1969)
Fritz Ford - Tall tourist at airport (12 Nov 1927 - 25 Aug 2006)
John Marshall - Charley Springer (12 Nov 1932 – 22 April 2005)
Harry Stanton - Mr. Richmond (7 Dec 1901 – 7 Feb 1978)
Geraldine Hall - Mrs. Richmond (31 Jan 1905 – 18 Sep 1970)
Glenda Farrell - Jane Winston (30 Jun 1904 – 1 May 1971)
Grandon Rhodes - Edgar Winston (7 Aug 1904 – 9 Jun 1978)
Thomas Mitchell - Ed Morgan (11 Jul 1892 – 17 Dec 1962)
Kurt Katch - Man with rifle (28 Jan 1896 – 14 Aug 1958)
Alejandro Ucanani - Civil Guard
Alfonso Hidalgo Tafur - Tall Civil Guard (16 Apr 1932)
Booth Colman - Juan Fernandez (8 Mar 1923 - 15 Dec 2014)
Zacharias Yaconelli - Bartender (30 Aug 1896 – Oct 1976)
Dimas Sotello - Luis (26 Mar 1901 - 19 Jul 1954)
Alvy Moore - American tourist at bar (5 Dec 1921 – 4 May 1997)
Rodolfo Hoyos - Manuel, Maitre d (14 Mar 1916 – 15 Apr 1983)
Leon Askin - Anton Marcu (18 Sep 1907 – 3 Jun 2005)
Anthony Earl Numkena - Runner (20 Aug 1942)
Michael Pate - Pachacutec (26 Feb 1920 – 1 Sep 2008)
William Henry - Philip Lang (10 Nov 1914 – 10 Aug 1982)
Robert Young - Dr. Stanley Moorehead (22 Feb 1907 – 21 Jul 1998)
Edward Colmans - Colonel Emilio Cardoza (31 Aug 1908 – 25 May 1977)
Yma Sumac - Kori-Tica (13 Sep 1922 – 1 Nov 2008)
Rosa Rey - Ocillo (4 Sep 1892 – 7 Apr 1969)
Moises Vivanco - “Earthquake” musician (7 Feb 1918 – 19 Sep 1998)
Hernan Brana - “Earthquake” musician (6 Mar 1910 – 10 May 1997)
Martin Garralaga - Dr. Cesar Perez (10 Nov 1894 – 12 Jun 1981)
Robert Tafur - Dr. Carlos Mendes (30 Sep 1915 – 6 Jun 2005)
Delmar Costello - Indian (10 Oct 1905 - 15 May 1961)
Miguel Contreras - Indian (9 Sep 1904 - 30 Dec 1956)
Basil F. Heath - Quechua shot by Morgan at Machu Picchu (18 Mar 1917 - 24 Jan 2011)


Faustino Espinoza Navarro is the first person you see in SECRET OF THE INCAS, he is the flute-playing llama herder in the Sacred Valley, as the opening cast and credits roll. Navarro was a Peruvian actor and writer and was responsible for the Inti Raymi festival in Cuzco and founder of the Academy of the Quechua Language of Cuzco.

Faustino Espinoza Navarro grew up the son of a humble farmer near Cuzco. His parents spoke Castilian with him, and he learned Quechua in his childhood as a second language.

Next to Humberto Vidal Unda, Faustino Espinoza Navarro rebuilt the Inti Raymi in Cuzco in 1944, basing it on the descriptions of Inti Raymi in the Royal Commentaries of the Inca Garcilaso de la Vega (1612), and wrote his first theatrical script. Espinoza wrote Inca papers and dialogue for the rest of the cast, simi Qhapaq entirely. He was regarded as an intellectual and cultural authority in Cuzco. Since then, Inti Raymi has been represented in Cuzco on June 24 each year. The first 14 years (until 1957) Espinoza played the role of the Inca, but in 1958 the academic authorities replaced him with Ricardo Castro Pinto, who until then had played the Willaq Umu .

In 1953 Faustino Espinoza was one of the founders of the Academy of the Quechua Language (today Academy of the Quechua Language Mayor), whose statutes were approved in January 1954 and where he worked as a teacher of Quechua. He was president of the Academy from 1963 to 1965 and from 1976 to 1980. In 1973 he began publishing the magazine Inka Rimay and in 1982 projected a unified international Quechua grammar.

Faustino Espinoza wrote 40 books in Quechua, some of which were not published. He published more than 100 poems in his books Quechua Qosqo (1963) and Machu Pikchu (1978). In 1984 he received the medal of the city of Cuzco.

Faustino Espinoza was married to Julia Farfan. They had a daughter, Flor.


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 Post subject: Re: Secret of the Incas
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There are some interesting questions posed here on SECRET OF THE INCAS by the Australian film historian Peter Malone, although he incorrectly states that Charlton Heston starred in ONE DESIRE (it was actually Rock Hudson).

http://petermalone.misacor.org.au/tiki- ... +the+Incas

SECRET OF THE INCAS

US, 1954, 100 minutes, Colour.
Charlton Heston, Robert Young, Nicole Maurey, Thomas Mitchell, Glenda Farrell, Michael Pate, Leon Askin.
Directed by Jerry Hopper.

Secret of the Incas is one of the many action adventures directed by Jerry Hopper during the early 1950s. He was to work with Charlton Heston in Pony Express, Private War of Major Benson and One Desire.

This is an adventure set in the Andes, adventurers from the United States in search of treasure, Charlton Heston as the hero, Thomas Mitchell as a shady adventurer. Robert Young appears as a doctor and Nicole Maurey as an archaeologist. Michael Pate portrays one of the Incas.

The film is quite predictable in the setting up of the search, the confrontations, the triangle romance, the presentation of the Incas. Nevertheless this was a fairly unpretentious film of the 1950s – and this kind of storytelling still remains entertaining pastime,

1. Was this a good adventure film? Was it too conventional? Or did it have original ingredients well presented?

2. How typical an adventure film of the fifties was this? Would it have been made differently now? In what way?

3. The importance of the mountain locations for the film's success? Peru, the style of the mountains and ruins for the Inca atmosphere? The value of the introduction?

4. The film as an adventure quest? The reality of greed? What attitude towards good and bad did the film show? its mixture in each of the characters? Did this make it seem real rather then just comic strip heroism?

6. Was Harry Steele a good hero? Charlton Heston style? As bad and on the make? Audience sympathy for him? His self-resources and vanity? His using of Elana at of the Romanian consul? The clashes with Morgan? What affected his change? The influence of Elana? His quest for the golden wealth and his change?

8. How interesting a character was Doctor Morehead? Was he a credible archeologist? The film's interest in showing what he was doing and its value? Drama-wise as a balance to Harrry Steele? Different character? As a rival for the affections of Elana? The credibility of his proposing to her? Her final rejecting of him? Why? What values did he stand for?

9. Morgan a convincing villain? His age and weight? His greed and the quest for gold? The importance of the mirror theme: as his being a mirror of what Harry Steele would be like? The influence of this mirror theme on Harry's behaviour? The melodramatics of his death?

10. How well did the film give the atmosphere of Cusco? The visitors, the planes, the thin air, the seedy atmoophere, the university where Incan was learnt?

11. How did this contrast with the jungle and the mountains, the village and the ruins?

12. How well did the film portray the Inca background? the quest for the sunburst for the Incas themselves? The importance of songs and the Inca dances? The legends? The association of the sunburst with civilizations and their being lost?

13. What values did the film presuppose in its audience? The audience response to such adventurea? Did it satisfy audience expectation?


If you want to find Peter's other questions for serious discussion on the films of Charlton Heston click here-

http://petermalone.misacor.org.au/tiki-index.php

I particularly like his page on THE TEN COMMANDMENTS, the film which is always in the Top Three of any list of Heston's fans favourite movies. http://petermalone.misacor.org.au/tiki- ... 2F+1956&bl


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 Post subject: Re: Secret of the Incas
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Take a look at this, folks -

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/454793262346909079

Charleston Heston playing the character Harry Steal. !

Not very good at spelling, are they?

And in this magazine, The Niagara Falls NY Gazette, Feb-Mar 1955, it has a little advert for SECRET OF THE INCAS starring Charles Heston!

http://fultonhistory.com/newspaper%208/ ... 200364.pdf

HIPPODROME PINE AT 19TH
TO - NITE
CHARLES HESTON in
"SECRET OF THE INCAS"

AUDIE MURPHY in
"DRUMS ACROSS THE RIVER"


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