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 Post subject: Re: The Agony and the Ecstasy
PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 6:24 am 
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EL-CID-1983 wrote:
You know that scene where Chuck stands on the cliff and sees the cloud that inspires him to paint the ceiling his way? That scene gets featured in "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" towards the end on TV being watched by one of the side characters.
Image I watched Rise of the Planet of the Apes a couple of years ago but don't remember that; I'll have to watch it again.

I did watch The Agony and the Ecstasy again very recently and took some shots of that famous scene; there's something surreal about it, maybe even hypnotic, as it switches from Chuck to the sky and back again:


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In fact, if this was a film from the seventies or later, Chuck's character probably would have been high in this scene, on drugs or drink, but as it is, he seems high on the glory of nature - that there must be some plan to all this...
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 Post subject: Re: The Agony and the Ecstasy
PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:36 am 
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Chrysagon wrote:
EL-CID-1983 wrote:
You know that scene where Chuck stands on the cliff and sees the cloud that inspires him to paint the ceiling his way? That scene gets featured in "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" towards the end on TV being watched by one of the side characters.
Image I watched Rise of the Planet of the Apes a couple of years ago but don't remember that; I'll have to watch it again.

I did watch The Agony and the Ecstasy again very recently and took some shots of that famous scene; there's something surreal about it, maybe even hypnotic, as it switches from Chuck to the sky and back again:


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In fact, if this was a film from the seventies or later, Chuck's character probably would have been high in this scene, on drugs or drink, but as it is, he seems high on the glory of nature - that there must be some plan to all this...

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In the bold - it is for the best then that this film was not made in the 70s then. ;)


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 Post subject: Re: The Agony and the Ecstasy
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 3:30 am 
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What I especially like about the scene is the self-conscious yet thoughtful and insightful acting Chuck does here. The scene is inspirational, it goes well with the Renaissance idea of finding creative impulse from the cosmos, the inward nature of the artist and the outward nature complement each other and creates something sublime-- all these high thoughts. An actor may feel tempted to portray the scene on high sensations, as if he is carried on by a sudden revelation, rapt in powerful divine impulses of creation. But Chuck never shows a bit of being carried away. Michaelangelo, being what he is in his talent, was also a very practical and strong character, for whom a show of being carried away by such things would not be good. So he appreciates the glory of nature, finds an image from the cloudsacape, hois face glows with a new idea that he can use for his art, but he keeps serene and quiet. I am glad that Chuck gets the point right.

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 Post subject: Re: The Agony and the Ecstasy
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Here you may enjoy reading a brilliant and detailed summary-***-analysis of the movie, with nice still-pictures.

http://dustedoff.wordpress.com/2012/04/ ... tasy-1965/

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 Post subject: Re: The Agony and the Ecstasy
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You may like to read a very scholarly paper on 'The Agony and the Ecstacy' -- http://digitalcommons.unomaha.edu/cgi/v ... ontext=jrf

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 Post subject: Re: The Agony and the Ecstasy
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Interesting analyses.

So I heard Diane Cilento claimed that when her then husband 007 star Sean Connery came to visit her on set he didn't get along with Charlton Heston. Is there any truth to that? I don't remember Chuck himself saying anything about it in his autobiography (or saying much about Diane Cilento herself for that matter).


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 Post subject: Re: The Agony and the Ecstasy
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EL-CID-1983 wrote:
Interesting analyses.

So I heard Diane Cilento claimed that when her then husband 007 star Sean Connery came to visit her on set he didn't get along with Charlton Heston. Is there any truth to that? I don't remember Chuck himself saying anything about it in his autobiography (or saying much about Diane Cilento herself for that matter).

Same here, I asked James in the other thread if he could clarify those claims coming from the book where he got that information from. Would be interesting. I'm a huge Connery fan as well, so it would be sad to have these two giants of cinema not getting along for whatever reason.

Damn it, Chuck's even of Scottish descent, I know Sean would have fancied that!

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