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 Post subject: Charlton Heston Movies Inflated Box Office Numbers
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:18 pm 
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Found an interesting write-up on Chuck and his box office numbers, which you can read here: http://cogerson.hubpages.com/hub/Charlt ... ltsGrosses

I didn't know The Greatest Show on Earth made that much money. Also a bit surprised that Earthquake did better at the box office than both El Cid and Planet of the Apes.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:11 pm 
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That's a great site for box office buffs (which I happen to be one of). I also took note of it at that IMDb forum but only a little while ago, earlier today. I'm really surprised that I was unaware of it until today.

Going with inflated box office figures (or adjusted for inflation) can be tricky and it gets harder to be certain of the accuracy the farther back you go. When you get back to the early sixties and fifties, some of this may be guesswork. Though I've seen many box office numbers over the past few years (such as at boxofficemojo), this is the first time I've seen inflated figures for all of Heston's earliest films, as well as other actors at that site.

However, it looks like they know what they're doing at that site; I did some brief comparisons using some other sources I have and they check out OK. For example, one source I have is a book - Box Office Hits - which details the 5 biggest box office films for each year, going back to 1939. According to this, The Greatest Show on Earth was easily the biggest film of the 1952 year, except for This is Cinerama, which everyone went to see that year because it first showcased the 'big screen' Cinerama experience for the first time. The 3rd biggest film of that year did only half the gross of The Greatest Show on Earth - it was that big.

Earthquake was one of the biggest box office films in the disaster genre for the entire seventies decade; it was only beaten by The Towering Inferno, The Poseidon Adventure and the first Airport film. According to Box Office Hits, Earthquake was the 4th biggest film of the 1974 year, beaten only by The Towering Inferno and two wildly popular Mel Brooks comedies. El Cid was also the 4th biggest film of the 1961 year, slightly beaten by Guns of Navarone and very much by West Side Story. This matches what is at that site, which lists Guns of Navarone at just over $300 million in adjusted dollars, while El Cid is at about $284 million. Planet of the Apes did not make the top 5 list of the 1968 year in the Box Office Hits book; I think it was 6th or 7th biggest of that year. Again, this seems to point to an accuracy at that site's numbers -- POTA is listed with a gross of about $200 million, which makes sense.


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Here's a list of most of the disaster films of the seventies, the numbers based on what's provided at that site --

DISASTER PICS (the Seventies Era) BY ADJUSTED BOX OFFICE GROSS:

$515.2 million Airport (70) Burt Lancaster, Dean Martin
$454.7 million The Towering Inferno (74) Steve McQueen, Paul Newman
$432.5 million The Poseidon Adventure (72) Gene Hackman, Ernest Borgnine
$335.5 million Earthquake (74) Charlton Heston, George Kennedy
$236.9 million Airport 1975 (74) Charlton Heston, George Kennedy
$118.5 million Airport ’77 (77) Jack Lemmon, George Kennedy
$ 80.0 million Rollercoaster (77) George Segal, Richard Widmark
$ 74.7 million Two Minute Warning (76) Charlton Heston, John Cassavetes
$ 69.2 million Skyjacked (72) Charlton Heston, Yvette Mimieux
$ 57.6 million The Swarm (78) Michael Caine, Richard Widmark
$ 31.0 million The Cassandra Crossing (77) Sophia Loren, Richard Harris
$ 26.2 million Meteor (79) Sean Connery, Natalie Wood
$ 23.1 million Gray Lady Down (78) Charlton Heston, David Carradine
$ 14.3 million Beyond the Poseidon Adventure (79) Michael Caine, Sally Field
$ 14.3 million Juggernaut (74) Richard Harris, Omar Sharif
$ 11.1 million When Time Ran Out (80) Paul Newman, William Holden
$ 7.2 million Avalanche (78) Rock Hudson, Mia Farrow

As one can see, the later films - those in the 2nd half of the seventies - were marked by a severe decline in box office gross. The disaster trend was essentially over as the first half of the seventies ended -- it's just that Hollywood bigwigs and producers didn't really notice until later. As with Epics, Heston's name is more prominent in this genre than other actors.


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Here's a full list of Heston's films by order of box office gross, inflated/adjusted, for those who don't feel like checking out that site:
(I say full, but it's missing some films like Mother Lode and his Mark Antony roles in 1970/1972. I'm guessing these had very low grosses)

each row - The FILM / Year / The B.O. GROSS / co-stars
1. The Ten Commandments (1956) 1.03 billion Yul Brynner
2. Ben-Hur (1959) 791.00 million Stephen Boyd, Jack Hawkins
3. The Greatest Show on Earth (1952) 445.20 million James Stewart
4. Earthquake (1974) 335.50 million Ava Gardner, George Kennedy
5. True Lies (1994) 285.40 million Arnold Schwarzenegger
6. El Cid (1961) 283.80 million Sophia Loren
7. Airport 1975 (1974) 236.90 million Karen Black
8. Planet of the Apes (1968) 200.30 million Roddy McDowall
9. Midway (1976) 177.30 million Henry Fonda, Glenn Ford
10.Cats & Dogs (2001) 131.20 million Jeff Goldblum
11.The Greatest Story Ever Told (1965) 119.2 million Max von Sydow
12.Any Given Sunday (1999) 118.5 million Al Pacino
13.The Three Musketeers (1973) 112.9 million Oliver Reed
14.Tombstone (1993) 108.1 million Kurt Russell, Val Kilmer
15.The Big Country (1958) 101.8 million Gregory Peck
16.55 Days at Peking (1963) 101.8 million Ava Gardner
17.Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970) 97 million James Franciscus
18.The Buccaneer (1958) 93 million Yul Brynner
19.Wayne’s World 2 (1992) 92.2 million Mike Myers
20.Diamond Head (1963) 91.4 million Yvette Mimieux
21.The Naked Jungle (1954) 87.4 million Eleanor Parker
22.The Four Musketeers (1974) 81.9 million Michael York
23.Two Minute Warning (1976) 74.7 million John Cassavetes
24.The Private War of Major Benson (1955) 70.8 million Julie Adams
25.Skyjacked (1972) 69.2 million Yvette Mimieux, James Brolin
26.The Agony & The Ecstasy (1965) 68.4 million Rex Harrison
27.Ruby Gentry (1952) 55.6 million Jennifer Jones
28.The Far Horizons (1955) 54.1 million Fred MacMurray
29.Secret of the Incas (1955) 53.3 million Robert Young
30.Lucy Gallant (1955) 43.7 million Jane Wyman
31.The Omega Man (1971) 42.1 million Anthony Zerbe
32.Pony Express (1953) 40.5 million Forrest Tucker
33.The President’s Lady (1953) 39 million Susan Hayward
34.Three Violent People (1956) 38.2 million Anne Baxter
35.The Pigeon That Took Rome (1962) 38.2 million Elsa Martinelli
36.Khartoum (1966) 37.4 million Laurence Olivier
37.Soylent Green (1973) 35.8 million Edward G. Robinson
38.Dark City (1950) 35 million Lizabeth Scott, Dean Jagger
39.Arrowhead (1953) 35 million Jack Palance
40.Major Dundee (1965) 35 million Richard Harris
41.The Wreck of the Mary Deare (1959) 34.2 million Gary Cooper
42.Bad For Each Other (1953) 31.8 million Lizabeth Scott
43.Touch of Evil (1958) 29.4 million Orson Welles
44.The Hawaiians (1970) 26.2 million Geraldine Chaplin
45.The Awakening (1980) 25.4 million Susannah York
46.Will Penny (1968) 23.8 million Joan Hackett, Donald Pleasence
47.Gray Lady Down (1978) 23.1 million David Carradine
48.The Mountain Men (1980) 22.3 million Brian Keith
49.Crossed Swords (1977) 21.5 million Oliver Reed
50.Alaska (1996) 21.5 million Dirk Benedict
51.The Savage (1952) 20.7 million Susan Morrow
52.The War Lord (1965) 16.7 million Richard Boone
53.In the Mouth of Madness (1995) 16.7 million Sam Neill
54.Number One (1969) 11.9 million Jessica Walter
55.Counterpoint (1967) 11.1 million Maximilian Schell
56.The Call of the Wild (1972) 9.5 million a dog
57.Town and Country (2001) 9.5 million Warren Beatty
58.Hamlet (1996) 8.7 million Kenneth Branagh
59.The Last Hard Men (1976) 6.4 million James Coburn
60.Peer Gynt (1941) 1.6 million
61.Julius Caesar (1950) 0.8 million

The one that really surprised me is The War Lord - I didn't realize it was such a box office failure when it ran in theaters - or maybe it had a limited release.
Also, Khartoum - a low gross for an epic. And, The Last Hard Men is Chuck's lowest-grossing pro film. Unless, one of the missing films is even lower (such as his last film from 2003, also not included). Another one that is missing is Solar Crisis - another one with probable very low box office gross.

Someone else please count up the total for that... I'm wiped out... :santa2:


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 Post subject: Re: Charlton Heston Movies Inflated Box Office Numbers
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Hi, the whole statistical account shows that our War Lord is back with all his glorious resourcefulness! :wave: Surprised to see that films like 'Airport' and 'Midway' could come into the top 10 of the list. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Charlton Heston Movies Inflated Box Office Numbers
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:00 pm 
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Chrysagon wrote:
That's a great site for box office buffs (which I happen to be one of). I also took note of it at that IMDb forum but only a little while ago, earlier today. I'm really surprised that I was unaware of it until today.

Going with inflated box office figures (or adjusted for inflation) can be tricky and it gets harder to be certain of the accuracy the farther back you go. When you get back to the early sixties and fifties, some of this may be guesswork. Though I've seen many box office numbers over the past few years (such as at boxofficemojo), this is the first time I've seen inflated figures for all of Heston's earliest films, as well as other actors at that site.

However, it looks like they know what they're doing at that site; I did some brief comparisons using some other sources I have and they check out OK. For example, one source I have is a book - Box Office Hits - which details the 5 biggest box office films for each year, going back to 1939. According to this, The Greatest Show on Earth was easily the biggest film of the 1952 year, except for This is Cinerama, which everyone went to see that year because it first showcased the 'big screen' Cinerama experience for the first time. The 3rd biggest film of that year did only half the gross of The Greatest Show on Earth - it was that big.

Earthquake was one of the biggest box office films in the disaster genre for the entire seventies decade; it was only beaten by The Towering Inferno, The Poseidon Adventure and the first Airport film. According to Box Office Hits, Earthquake was the 4th biggest film of the 1974 year, beaten only by The Towering Inferno and two wildly popular Mel Brooks comedies. El Cid was also the 4th biggest film of the 1961 year, slightly beaten by Guns of Navarone and very much by West Side Story. This matches what is at that site, which lists Guns of Navarone at just over $300 million in adjusted dollars, while El Cid is at about $284 million. Planet of the Apes did not make the top 5 list of the 1968 year in the Box Office Hits book; I think it was 6th or 7th biggest of that year. Again, this seems to point to an accuracy at that site's numbers -- POTA is listed with a gross of about $200 million, which makes sense.

Interesting stuff, man. Thanks. I'm also interested in Box Office numbers.

If you'll give me a few days, I'll add up the total figure for all his movies.

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Detective Thorn wrote:
If you'll give me a few days, I'll add up the total figure for all his movies.

Damn it, I've given it two tries now and both times I've lost my place in the list somewhere mid-through :evil:

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Detective Thorn wrote:
Damn it, I've given it two tries now and both times I've lost my place in the list somewhere mid-through :evil:


:lol: - that is precisely why I avoided trying it so far; I just knew that would happen to me, too.

btw, it's just as well you didn't try and succeed on that first day. I'd made a mistake in the b.o. gross for The TEN COMMANDMENTS; I had it listed at $1.29 billion when it should have been $1.03 billion. That's a difference of about $260 million - nothing to sneeze at. :oops:


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I always assumed Two- Minute Warning was a big flop-Mr Heston said so in his autobiography but looking at those stats it must have done pretty well. I know it featured the all-star supporting cast and won't have been a low-budget movie but I can't imagine it would have cost a fortune to make.


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Mark wrote:
I always assumed Two- Minute Warning was a big flop-Mr Heston said so in his autobiography but looking at those stats it must have done pretty well. I know it featured the all-star supporting cast and won't have been a low-budget movie but I can't imagine it would have cost a fortune to make.
Two-Minute Warning seems to stand out in any discussion involving Heston's box office gross. Admin Thorn also brought this up in a thread where I separated all of Heston's disaster films by their box office: heston-disaster-films-by-box-office-gross-t427.html

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